 Hi, Sherlock. Good evening. I'm Shi ting. Good. How are you? I'm good. I'm still at the faculty, but I know that from tomorrow it will be closed at 8 o'clock in the evening. Good, I need to go home oh yeah yeah. Okay, today is for the follow up a phone interview and I just have several simple questions about how you use the mail real spoke up at home. So how do you feel about using it in your home? Generally, fit to, my drawer? Ii am inclined to put it into this question, but so good that you told me not to, yeah. Yeah, something is empty. And you want to reuse. I often do that. And now I can because the chips will not be reused, right? Yes. And also, I think the material of the cop is not suitable for the dishwasher, because, yeah, yeah and, one of the participants put it in the dishwasher, because he forgot. 
Yeah, and he found the ship changed a bit, and it's a bit melt of the plastic. Yeah. And do you think it will be an issue for you? It's not suitable for the dishwasher. You can clean it in all the ways, but it's I think I'm used to putting back again. This was so I think if I would use the system, which is then difficult, but to say then II I think bring my own couple where because I put it in the dishwasher. Yes. 
Then how do you feel the meal cup in corporation to your other food containers at home? Yeah, II don't have like an aesthetic opinion about it. I don't get there. They are in in a drawer. And it's fine. Have you already finished the cookies inside medical piece? 
By the way, if you will clean it by hand, then how you will do that. Just, and I think if you have the lentils, for example, I wouldn't even clean it. Yeah. But the cookies are a little bit crazy so that I would why I was cleaning with just regular liquid soap and the brush. Yeah. And how will you make it dry? Which is Dutch, I believe. But I II. So I heard we have a peculiar way in a story or of the individuals because other cultures think we are discussing. Yes. 
Okay, if that is possible, would you like to shop again using the system after you have the second consideration when you come back home? What do you mean? If that is possible? Would you like to shop again using the system maybe in the future? Sure, yeah. After you have the more considerations, you still want to use it. Um i don't get your question, I think. Yeah, I because after you bring the cops back, maybe you will rethink about the system. You will have more considerations or some new concerns towards it by having the cops in the home. Might help. 
Yeah. Yeah, but I think II shop more because I would need us then because I'm. Yeah, if the having the couple is not the reason for returning, I think, but it's again I put hypothetical. I don't know. Yeah. And you would prefer to use yourself container, as you said, you so yeah yeah last time because you only brought back a small cup with the cookies. 
Could you imagine if you had brought several cups with maybe other products, you you filled from the supermarket, then how would you prepare for your next shopping? Grab a big bag, bottle empty cups in it. 
Yeah. Yeah, so like I already like what I do for doing the groceries or going to the vegetable market, I already bring my own bags and small bags. So I would just bring more crops. I don't think that's a problem. Yeah. So that means you will return all the empty containers rather than continue using them. No, just to do the next 13 shopping. And then maybe how you decide how many cops you will bring with you to the supermarket. According II think I would always bring the empty ones, MHM. Because I always decide in the shop what I really want to buy. 
You normally you will decide the product you want to buy in the shop rather than have a shopping list or something. Yeah, the ones I'm not very planned, so you just bring several of the empty ones. And then when you are in the supermarket, you decide what to buy. And then I know more or less which products are almost done. For example, if I need lentils. Yeah, sure, yeah. Yeah yeah. 
So do you feel your um actions in using the system will have the environment impact? In what do you feel your uh actions in using the system? Will have an environmental impact, environmental impact? Yes, but like I told you, I think, yeah, packaging is not the main problem. It is a problem and that's why we should try to reduce our packaging too. But I'm not sure. Because it's also heavier material. So they should be used like the deep life span should be expended expanded quite some, I think, yeah, to meet up with the infection. I'm not sure. I like AA lentils, for example, we buy a lot of lentils. 
So I'm going back to they come in a plastic bag, and we use the plastic bag also to store the lentils. So in that sense, the product lifetime of this back is quite long already. And it is not that big. And the me wake up is, II hope it's the cops itself are also recycled after end of life. Sure it will be recycled in the end of life. Yeah, so like Coca Cola, for example, too, that's good. So I guess that's better than then the in plastic bags. But yeah, yeah yeah, I ask this question because now we're feeling the communication of the sustainability is not quite enough or the visible in this system. 
So normally, the consumer they don't know how much they can contribute, or they think that personal action is very limited yeah yeah. Yeah. So we want to get some understanding from the consumers how they uh distinguish about the contribution the made for the enrollment. Yeah. Our distinguishes by less, that's like a very simple rule that's easy to understand that makes sense. Yes. Then after using the system and cup, do you feel different towards buying products in single use packaging when you go to the supermarket after this research? No, yeah. I a a I think most of people don't feel any different no no no, because it's also not like a completely new concept, right? So something that was already in my mind. And I think what there's an ide alumnus. She's called a bad person. Like she has written a book, the hidden impact, like what you can do, your daily life to have less environmental impact. 
And that's why I'm also like she tried to to get a big picture of this is penny anyways found foolish. Yeah, and Beijing is one of the things that she Mark is penny wise. So that's why I have quite a yeah, you are already familiar with this topic exactly sure. Okay okay and what's on the course? Ii do feel it when I think everything. Ii also today I went to the shop for buying some small persons for a city class and touch. I think, but when I hold things in my hand already feel like this, something had to be destroyed to for this to be made. 
So I'm not conscious, almost enjoyed conscious about the impact that we have on the environment that's it. That's true. Yeah. Okay, then my last question, could you imagine this will become our mean shopping for groceries in the future? I hope something like that. This would be the normal. And then even, I think, more advanced, because I think these are the first models, but I expect that we can even be smarter about it. Yeah. Yeah, we could. Yeah. That's all my uh questions for the following up interviews. Thanks a lot for your time to share your opinions with me, again yeah. Thank you. And hope that maybe we can sure. Have a, good evening. Ii noticed there are no people around in the building. Okay, then have a nice evening. Okay, bye bye. 